Dopey 491: DOPEY DAY SPECIAL! Chris's Mom and Sister Remember Chris for ChrisMiss 2024, Remembering All the Fallen Dopes!

This week on Dopey! It is Dopey Day Again! We are celebrating ChrisMiss and remembering Chris and all of our fallen friends. We are joined by Chris's mom and sister today to remember Chris! We hear about some of their favorite memories and listen to what it's like living on after you lose someone! 

PLUS TONS OF VOICEMAILS, EMAILS, REMEMBERING THE FALLEN DOPES!

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This part of the conversation focuses on the ongoing impact of losing loved ones to addiction and the importance of remembering and honoring their memory. The hosts discuss their personal experiences of remembering those who have passed away and the comfort it brings. They also touch on the significance of anniversaries and milestones in relation to grief. The conversation transitions to Dopey Day, a holiday created to pay homage to those lost to addiction and celebrate those who are still fighting to stay alive. The hosts share messages and greetings from the Dopey Nation community, highlighting the support and connection within the community. They also discuss the grief and healing process, including visiting Chris's grave and engaging in activities that remind them of him. The chapter ends with a reflection on the complexity of addiction and the challenges of recognizing relapse in loved ones. In this part of the conversation, David and Arden discuss the pain and guilt that comes with losing a loved one to addiction. They reflect on their own experiences of not recognizing the signs and blame themselves for not being able to prevent the tragedy. They emphasize the importance of forgiveness and self-compassion in the healing process. They also discuss the difficulty of moving on and the bittersweet feeling of seeing others continue with their lives while their loved one is gone. They share their thoughts on how to support someone who has lost a child and offer advice on finding hope and healing after such a devastating loss. In this part of the conversation, Annie discusses her ambivalence towards the significance of the new year and reflects on her recovery journey. She shares her struggles with addiction, including relapses and the challenges of staying sober. Annie contemplates recommitting to the 12-step program despite her reservations about certain aspects of it. The conversation ends with messages from Dopey Nation members and a classic Dopey episode featuring Chris and Dave. In this final part of the conversation, David Manheim shares some personal stories and anecdotes about his experiences with drugs and recovery. He talks about his disease and the constant struggle to stay sober. He also discusses his experiments with psychedelics and the possibility of achieving similar experiences through meditation and spiritual practices. The conversation ends with various members of the Dopey Nation sharing their messages of love, remembrance, and gratitude.

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takeaways

• Remembering and honoring loved ones who have passed away from addiction can bring comfort and a sense of connection.
• Anniversaries and milestones can be significant triggers for grief and reflection.
• Dopey Day is a holiday created to pay homage to those lost to addiction and celebrate those who are still fighting to stay alive.
• The Dopey Nation community provides support and connection for individuals navigating addiction and recovery.
• Visiting gravesites and engaging in activities that remind us of loved ones can be a way to feel connected and take care of their memory.
• Recognizing relapse in loved ones can be challenging, especially when they are intelligent and convincing. Losing a loved one to addiction can bring feelings of guilt and self-blame, but it's important to forgive yourself and recognize that the outcome was out of your control.
• It is not helpful or respectful to ask someone how they didn't know about their loved one's addiction. Each person's experience is unique, and blaming oneself or others does not change the outcome.
• Over time, the acute grief and self-questioning may fade, but it can resurface on certain days or during difficult moments. It's important to give yourself time and space to process these emotions.
• Seeing others move on with their lives can be bittersweet for those who have lost a loved one to addiction. It's a reminder of what could have been and can bring a mix of emotions, including hope and pain.
• Finding support from others who have experienced similar losses can help alleviate feelings of loneliness and provide a sense of understanding and connection.
• Engaging in acts of service and helping others can be a way to honor the memory of a loved one and find healing in the aftermath of loss. The new year may not hold significant meaning for everyone, and personal growth and change can happen at any time.
• Recovery from addiction is a challenging journey with ups and downs, and it's important to seek support and make a commitment to change.
• The 12-step program, while not perfect, can provide a supportive community and structure for recovery.
• The Dopey Nation community continues to honor and remember Chris and Annie, and their stories inspire others to stay strong in their own recovery journeys. The constant struggle to stay sober and prioritize recovery
• The potential for psychedelic experiences through meditation and spiritual practices
• The importance of love, remembrance, and gratitude within the Dopey Nation

titles

• Dopey Day: A Holiday of Remembrance and Celebration
• Grief and Healing: Navigating the Loss of a Loved One Moving On and Finding Hope
• Navigating Guilt and Self-Blame Messages from Dopey Nation
• Contemplating the 12-Step Program Messages of Love, Remembrance, and Gratitude
• The Struggle of Sobriety and the Disease of Addiction

Sound Bites

• "To know that they're remembered in some capacity, I'm just assuming, you know what I mean?"
• "Every August 16th, we celebrate Dopey Day, aka Christmas in August."
• "Happy Christmas in August Dopey Day episode."
• "The best gift they gave him is when we really suspected something was wrong, they said, doesn't matter what happened, we'll pay for the next rehab, we will get you, we will work with you so you get better."
• "Even if we had known, even if we had the best interventionist and the best companion and the best treatment center, it doesn't matter, it still could have ended where it was."
• "I don't think it's ever helpful to ask somebody, how don't you know? I actually find that really disrespectful and obnoxious and just not a helpful comment."
• "How do you feel now we're coming up on the new year? Is the new year significant to you?"
• "I've kind of decided I'm going to recommit to 12 step thing, which I'm not 100 % happy about."
• "I would just like to wish the Dopey Nation a very, very happy new year and I hope to see you all at DopeyCon 2023."
• "My disease is in the parking lot doing pushups, waiting for me to go out."
• "I cannot imagine you found any sort of psychedelic experience without taking a hallucinogen."
• "I got a bunch of this that DMT stuff it was what about dope stories the podcast with crazy Mike and the other guy from fish or whatever that thing I think that's ending didn't we see that was anything so yeah, we're gonna replace dope stories whatever that might be"

Chapters

00:00Remembering and Honoring: Finding Comfort in Remembrance

05:47Dopey Day: A Holiday of Remembrance and Celebration

14:20Grief and Healing: Navigating the Loss of a Loved One

27:01Visiting Graves and Engaging in Activities: Keeping Memories Alive

37:30Recognizing Relapse: The Challenges of Supporting Loved Ones

47:19Navigating Guilt and Self-Blame

56:19Finding Healing Through Acts of Service

01:36:28Reflecting on the Significance of the New Year

01:43:28Struggles and Commitment in Recovery

01:54:14Messages from Dopey Nation

02:17:15Classic Dopey Episode: The GHB Bottle

02:24:07Exploring Psychedelics and Alternative Spiritual Practices

02:37:38Coincidences and Strange Encounters

02:44:09Messages of Love, Remembrance, and Gratitude